Ví dụ về việc sử dụng Cebes trong Tiếng anh và bản dịch của chúng sang Tiếng việt
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It is, Cebes said.
Likely indeed, Cebes.
No, by Zeus,” Cebes said,“I really don't.”.
This, by Zeus, said Cebes.
Yes; Simmias, the Theban, Cebes and Phædondes; and from Megara, Euclides and Terpsion.
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I altogether agree, said Cebes.
Yes, Simmias of Thebes and Cebes and Phaedonides, and from Megara Euclides and Terpsion.
I certainly would, said Cebes, laughing.
Then Cebes asked:“How do you mean Socrates, that it is not right to do oneself violence, and yet that the philosopher will be willing to follow one who is dying?”.
However, I think that before we answer him, we should hear Cebes' objection, in order that we may have time to deliberate on an answer.
Cebes then asked him,“What do you mean, Socrates, by saying that it is not lawful to commit violence on one's self, but that a philosopher should be willing to follow one who is dying?”.
But, to be sure,this seems to me at least to be said well, Cebes- that the gods are the ones who take care of us and we human beings are one of the possessions of the gods.
If I were you, and the argument escaped me, I would take an oath, as the Argives did, not to let my hair grow before I fought again anddefeated the argument of Simmias and Cebes.
And I rather imagine that Cebes is referring to you; he thinks that you are too ready to leave us, and too ready to leave the gods who, as you acknowledge, are our good rulers.”.
It is not that I doubt, said Simmias, but I want to experience the very thing we are discussing,recollection, and from what Cebes undertook to say, I am now remembering and am pretty nearly convinced.
It has been shown, Simmias and Cebes, already,” said Socrates,“if you will combine this conclusion with the one we reached before, that every living being is born from the dead.
The Pythagorean connection is carried further in the dialogue itself, since Socrates' two fellow discussants,Simmias and Cebes- from Thebes, the other city where expelled members of the brotherhood settled- are associates of Philolaus, the leading Pythagorean there.
For, Simmias and Cebes, I should be wrong not to resent dying if I did not believe that I should go first to other wise and good gods, and then to men who have died and are better than men are here.
It has been proved even now, Simmias and Cebes, said Socrates, if you are ready to combine this argument with the one we agreed on before, that every living thing must come from the dead.
Cebes, I thought, agrees with me that the soul lasts much longer than the body, but that no one knows whether the soul often wears out many bodies and then, on leaving its last body, is now itself destroyed.
After such nurture there is no danger, Simmias and Cebes, that one should fear that, on parting from the body, the soul would be scattered and dissipated by the winds and no longer be anything anywhere.
Cebes laughed and said: Assuming that we were afraid, Socrates, try to change our minds, or rather do not assume that we are afraid, but perhaps there is a child in us who has these fears; try to persuade him not to fear death like a bogey.
This has been even now demonstrated, Simmias and Cebes,” said Socrates,“if you will only connect this last argument with that which we before assented to, that every thing living is produced from that which is dead.
Cebes, I believe, granted that the soul is more lasting than the body, but said that no one could know that the soul, after wearing out many bodies, did not at last perish itself upon leaving the body; and that this was death--the destruction of the soul, since the body is continually being destroyed.
But that proof, Simmias and Cebes, has been already given, said Socrates, if you put the two arguments together- I mean this and the former one, in which we admitted that everything living is born of the dead.
Cebes almost taunts him when he laughs and says,“Assuming that we are afraid, Socrates, try to change our minds, or rather do not assume that we are afraid, but perhaps there is a child in us who has these fears; try to persuade him not to fear death like a bogey”(77e).
This is my defense, Simmias and Cebes, that I am likely to be right to leave you and my masters here without resentment or complaint, believing that there, as here, I shall find good masters and good friends.
Consider then, Cebes, whether it follows from all that has been said that the soul is most like the divine, deathless, intelligible, uniform, indissoluble, always the same as itself, whereas the body is most like that which is human, mortal, multiform, unintelligible, soluble and never consistently the same.
There is one excellent argument, said Cebes, namely that when men are interrogated in the right manner, they always give the right answer of their own accord, and they could not do this if they did not possess the 7.
When I was a young man, Cebes, I was wonderfully desirous of that wisdom which they call a history of nature; for it appeared to me to be a very sublime thing to know the causes of every thing- why each thing is generated, why it perishes, and why it exists.